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    Why Pagans Don't Celebrate St. Patrick's Day

    Text in italics was written by Flame Ravenhawk, and the original article can be found here.
    Thanks to sari0009 for the correct credit!

    Why pagans don't celebrate St. Patrick's Day

    Patrick was a Christian priest whose job it was to convert the population of Ireland to Christianity. The Druids, however, stood in his way. The Druids were very important people in Ireland at that time, and their symbol was the Snake of Wisdom. Druids could be priests of the old religion of Ireland, but there were also much more.


    One part of the Druid class were the "Bards", whose job it was to remember all of the history of the people, as well as to record current events. Because the Irish Celts did not rely on a written language, everything had to be memorized. Bards were poets and musicians, and used music and poetry to help them remember their history exactly. Because of this, Bards were highly respected members of the Irish society. The Irish believed that history was very important, for if you didn't remember what had happened in the past, you couldn't safely plan for the future. Bards, therefore, held the future of the people in safekeeping.


    Another important part of the Druidic class were the "Brehons". Brehons were the Judges and the Keepers of the Laws. The Celtic people had a highly complicated society, and with it, a highly developed set of laws. Brehons trained for many years to learn the laws of the people, so that whenever there was a dispute, the Brehon could
    fairly decide the matter and make peace. The laws were there to make sure that everyone; man, woman, and child, were treated fairly and with respect. Because of the wisdom that the Brehons held, and the knowledge of the laws of the society, they too, like the Bards, were held with much respect.


    And, of course, there were the Druid Priests. This branch of the Druid set were the keepers of the knowledge of Earth and Spirits. It was their responsibility to learn the Spirit World, in order to keep people and Earth in harmony. Priests performed marriages and "baptisms", they were healers, and psychiatrists. The Priests were
    the wise grandparents to whom you could go with a problem. They were there to help you solve them, with the help of the Earth and the Spirit World.


    Into this world of the Irish Celts entered a highly energetic and devoted Christian Priest named Patrick. Because he believed so strongly in the tenets of Christianity, he thought that anyone who was not Christian had to become one in order to be "saved". He came to Ireland to convert the Irish people to Christianity.


    The Irish people at that time were happy and doing quite well without Patrick and his ideas, but he was persistent. He noticed that the Druids were really the important people of the society. He thought that if he could convert the Druids to Christianity, the rest of the people would follow. Patrick's main problem was that the Druids were very
    comfortable with what they had already learned, and were not willing to change. Druids had spent their entire lives learning the ways of the people, and were the last people who were willing to change.


    Although Patrick was not willing to abandon his vision of a Christian Ireland, he was getting desperate. He knew that because the strength of the people rested with the Druids, he had to get rid of them in order to get the people to listen to him.


    Patrick was not alone in his efforts. He had brought many people with him from Britain to establish the new religion. Patrick began to destroy the influence of the Druids by destroying the sacred sites of the people and building churches and monasteries where the Druids used to live and teach. Gradually, the might of the Druidic class was broken by a bitter campaign of attrition. Instead of hearing the teachings and advice of the Druids, the people began to hear the teachings of Rome. Because the Druids were the only ones who were taught to remember the history, with the Druids dead and their influence broken, the history was forgotten.


    Patrick won. By killing off the teachers and the wise ones, his own religion could be taught. For this mass conversion of a culture to Christianity, and for the killing of thousands of innocent people, Patrick was made a Saint by his church.

    So while I love my Irish heritage and the culture I do not celebrate the murder of my ancestors or the man that murdered them.

Comments (32)

  • Isismoon
    Yuck. We need to stop celebrating victories won by killing.
  • diongham
    Why Pagans DO celebrate St. Patrick's Day: 1) Drinking is fun 2) Green beer is better than brown beer 3) Leprechauns 4) Red hair rocks... Light hearted enough? =)
  • AnkhPriestess
    Thank you for sharing this! Sorry I haven't been around in a while, but I hope you are doing well!
    Blessings,
    Erin
  • MsMacabre
    I had to stop a moment and thank you for posting this. It's all true, and the reason why I don't honor the day either, though I am Irish myself. Thankfully, enough people managed to hold on to the old traditions and beliefs in secret, so we are blessed to know them today. If not for them, St. Patrick would have likely succeeded in wiping out the old ways completely in Ireland.
  • magicmama6
    uh-huh
    Great POST! I was looking for something to put on my blog about this very thing!
  • anonymous

    That's EXACTLY why i don't celebrate him. A friend of mine tried to get me to change my mind about him "if I read Patrick's writings" I said NO, flat out! I WON"T celebrate a day of mass murder and the desecration of the sacred places of my ancestors! Time will tell if he accepts my dislike and leaves it alone!



  • anonymous

    My birthday is March 17th, St. Patricks Day. I never studied the origins, but now I will no longer associate my birthday with the evil of St. Patrick. I would much rather study the Druid knowledge. 

  • anonymous

    Celebrate Patty's Day?  Nope, but I will use it as an excuse.  An excuse to be with my dear friends, to share in their laughter and merrymaking, to remember those who can't be with us anymore, and to get more than a little tipsy.  That is the best way to remember the day: distort and debase until the original reason lies buried and forgotten.  I can't think of anything more fitting.

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    @Don Canazie - I can recommend you some good books if you need any!

  • sari0009
  • ErisianDiva78

    Thanks for posting this!  As I recall, a few years back I made the comment about not celebrating St. Pat's day and that's what brought us together as online friends.  So it is nice that something good can come from something bad.  Hope your week is good!

  • Child_of_the_Earth

    @sari0009 - Thanks so much!  I've updated with the correct credit!

  • Undercover_Librarian

    Well, we do have a different perception of religion, (and practically everything else, but hey, who says people have to agree all the time?) so I think that we would have a different opinion on this issue. So I was wondering about the story of Patrick, and the Irish king (at least I believe it was a king), and the king offered Patrick a cup of poisoned wine to do away with him. I heard it, but I don't know if it was true. Have you heard of it?


    Btw, I really love Celtic history. My family is a subset of the Scottish clan Sinclair, so I have always been interested in Celtic architecture (amazingness!!), art, history, and religion.

  • ThePraisedOne

    Hi dear! Long time no hear! Very interesting post you have here. Glad you could share with us otherwise we would not have known for the real reason behind the title

  • sari0009
  • Auxesis

    Christianity doing something bad. What a surprise. 

  • Edgebreak

    My kids and I do an alternate celebration, I hide toy snakes and golden chocolate coins around the yard and the hunt for them.  In doing so we celebrate the vicitmization of our pagan ancestors by finding the "snakes" they were labeled as and reclaiming the wealth they were robbed of by Patrick and is army.

  • Isismoon
    Dunk!

    Maybe this can go all the way to the front page, although the binge drinking that goes on somewhat clouds his shady image further.

  • judyrutrider

    'Tis good to hear from you again,

  • anonymous

    Great job explaining this. I used this blog as a source of information for an article I wrote, Should Pagans Celebrate St. Patrick's Day? Thanks so much for bringing up some excellent points!

  • anonymous

    With Love
    Thanks for the gist of the whole thing. But..where I can see that this Patrick dude was Catholically (in my lexicon it means obedient blind passion without understanding or logic) motivated, I missed the slaughter part. I also missed any reference to this yearly holiday's timing origins. There I was all hyped to read about more great reasons to dislike any Catholic. But the harshest meanings I found of attrition were:

    <li> A rubbing away or wearing down by friction. <li> A gradual diminution in number or strength because of constant stress.<li> A gradual, natural reduction in membership or personnel, as through retirement, resignation, or death.<li> Repentance for sin motivated by fear of punishment rather than by love of God
  • WhiteWolfWillE

    Today I Wear Black For Those Who Have Died, From The Greed And Deception Of Those Who Have Lied,


    No Green For St Patrick Will You Find On My Head, Who's Hands Stained With Blood From Our Ancestors Dead,


    Religiously Intolerant On Most they Would Paint, But They Honored and Cheered Him and Call Him A Saint,


    Today I wear black for Irelands Sons and Daughters, Who For Walking The Old Way Were Murdered And Slaughtered,


    Today I Wear Black For Those Who’ve Seen Their Last Hour, In War With A Church Who's Only True Quest Is Power.


  • anonymous

    I think you need to read up on your history and stop telling tales. What you posted about is complete fiction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick and http://www.history.com/content/stpatricksday/who-was-st.-patrick

  • WhiteWolfWillE

    @Sue - Oh well shit sue.... you got it! if Wikipedia says its true than it has to be! lol  Who writes the history books Sue? Certainly not the ones who are dead.

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